Profiled by Time magazine in October 2003, Krishna Das is regarded as
America's leading "chantmaster." Each year Krishna Das gives a workshop in
Yogaville and he graciously agreed to be interviewed by Ratna Stone. In part
one of this interview, Krishna Das talks about his Guru, his path, and falling
in love with who you truly are in Part 1 of this two-part interview. |
Ratna Stone: Your best-selling video is called, The Yoga of Chant, and you
explain how chanting is a way of achieving devotion to God through music. You
even explained that the Deity will reveal Himself or Herself to you if you
maintain sincerity and concentration through the chanting. Do you think that
some people who have difficulty concentrating silently could use this technique
of chanting ancient mantras aloud as a steppingstone to other forms of
meditation? Could chanting even be considered a meditation itself?
Krishna Das: In India, they say that the Name and God are not different.
So, if that's true, then chanting the Name or remembering the Name in any way,
either out loud or silently, is to be in God or with God. So you would have to
say that this practice is meditation itself. The saints see God everywhere
and they hear the Name, the silent Name, constantly because they are in that
state where they hear the sound of the universe, which is the name of God-the
original Name.
It says in some of the new translations of the Bible: "In the beginning was
the Name, and the Name was with God. And the Name was towards God and the
Name was with God." So it's an ancient process, a recognition of the Path.
The chanting of the Name is a very subtle practice, so we don't really
understand what we're doing. It's just like, to some degree, when you're a
kid and you watch TV, you don't understand all of the electronics that went
into getting that picture in front of your face. And the way we practice
spiritual techniques is very much the same. We don't understand what we're
doing until the practices reveal to us what the story is. So, we may see our
practice in an egocentric way: "I'm doing this and this will bring that result
for me." That is reasonable, because that's where our heads are. It's actually
not like that. Actually, the practice is "doing" us! God is remembering us!
We have no ability to remember God. We are like a comet shooting out into
space, and God is grabbing us and pulling us back-pulling us back into orbit
around the Name. So, meditation is a very deep and subtle practice; and the
same words mean different things in different traditions...
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